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	<title>Comments on: Hero deficit? What hero deficit?</title>
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	<description>Scientific Romances and Other Curiosities from the Antipodes</description>
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		<title>By: arcadiagt5</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit that I bounced off the novel.

I did try but 150 (well it felt like that anyway) telling us that the Bishop of Digne was truly wonderful was a bit much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that I bounced off the novel.</p>
<p>I did try but 150 (well it felt like that anyway) telling us that the Bishop of Digne was truly wonderful was a bit much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jess Nevins:

I was hoping the weight of argument would be enough to infer motive.

To Arcadiagt5:

Valjean is a complex case, but Les Miserables starts with him committing a crime. Admittedly it is not a terrible crime (he steals a loaf of bread out of desperation), but he later steals from a man who has just given him food and lodging, and immediately after that steals from a child, even poorer than he, for no reason other than that he can. At that point Valjean has his conversion and chooses a moral path, but before that he is most certainly not a hero in any sense of the word. I think it is one of the strongest points in favour of Victor Hugo&#039;s choices as a novelist that he gave Valjean two crimes to his name that can&#039;t be morally justified by his situation. Admittedly Valjean is not much of an antihero after he reinvents himself, but I still think he counts because of his earlier actions. And in the context of this piece, if Valjean was appearing as a new character in film today, he would meet Bowman&#039;s criteria for the conflicted hero that Hollywood does too much of these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jess Nevins:</p>
<p>I was hoping the weight of argument would be enough to infer motive.</p>
<p>To Arcadiagt5:</p>
<p>Valjean is a complex case, but Les Miserables starts with him committing a crime. Admittedly it is not a terrible crime (he steals a loaf of bread out of desperation), but he later steals from a man who has just given him food and lodging, and immediately after that steals from a child, even poorer than he, for no reason other than that he can. At that point Valjean has his conversion and chooses a moral path, but before that he is most certainly not a hero in any sense of the word. I think it is one of the strongest points in favour of Victor Hugo&#8217;s choices as a novelist that he gave Valjean two crimes to his name that can&#8217;t be morally justified by his situation. Admittedly Valjean is not much of an antihero after he reinvents himself, but I still think he counts because of his earlier actions. And in the context of this piece, if Valjean was appearing as a new character in film today, he would meet Bowman&#8217;s criteria for the conflicted hero that Hollywood does too much of these days.</p>
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		<title>By: arcadiagt5</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious as to why you would classify Jean Valjean as an antihero?</description>
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		<title>By: Jess Nevins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess Nevins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re assuming he was arguing honestly, rather than constructing a patently false argument as a way to grind an ideological axe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re assuming he was arguing honestly, rather than constructing a patently false argument as a way to grind an ideological axe.</p>
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