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		<title>Comment on Garth Nix, Nick Earls against parallel imports by Bookmarks about Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - bookmarked by 2 members originally found by suchanangel on 2008-07-22  Garth Nix, Nick Earls against parallel imports  http://www.talkingsquid.net/archives/344 - bookmarked by 3 members originally found by qq12860710 [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Card&#8217;s economy-sized jug of crazy sauce by sean williams</title>
		<link>http://www.talkingsquid.net/archives/385#comment-46465</link>
		<dc:creator>sean williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Jehoshaphat claqueur"

Genius, right there.</description>
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<p>Genius, right there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do free electronic books move hard copy? by Jack Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post</description>
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		<title>Comment on Postmodernism versus global warming by Bill Gnade</title>
		<link>http://www.talkingsquid.net/archives/429#comment-46426</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gnade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Dear Talking Squid,

It is very nice to make your acquaintance.

I feel I should make some sort of defense here regarding my Twain and Kuhn essay. But would it do any good? One wonders.

I read Kuhn, I don't know, several times in college, and at least once after my matriculation. I was a philosophy student then; I think I was turned on to Kuhn in 1982, my sophomore year, when I enrolled in the course "The Philosophy of Natural Science." I recall LOVING that fine work; I recognize that it remains a strong force in any discussion of the history of science. 

My purpose in my essay was not to flesh out Kuhn in all his provocative glory. I merely wanted to iterate that Twain was clearly Kuhn's predecessor; that Twain was not some odd and unconfirmed voice, but that Kuhn validated much of what Twain averred about "consensus." My audience -- clearly -- is not your audience. So I did not think I needed to present Kuhn in any detail (and not that I could after 20 or so years since my last reading of TSOSR).

I find it curious that you should find it necessary to criticize my essay on racist facts. I would love to know where you find it faulty or deficient. Egads! Are you suggesting that I should have mentioned "semiotics"? Well, I notice you have not divulged to us all that you are engaged in semiotics in this essay; isn't any discussion about the written or spoken word semiotic? But I nit-pick. However, I do not channel Sausarre at all, whoever the hell that is; I MIGHT channel Saussure, but that's a stretch. The bone which I picked was with a particular radio talk-show host, who summarily dismissed a man who was straining to make a point. Are you suggesting that my undeniably accurate position on dictionaries somehow discredits me? And are you inferring that because I have attempted to empathize with those who believe in "racist facts" (I note you steer clear of my actual argument), I am somehow intellectually stunted, ill-equipped to apprehend the rarified air of global warming science? Would you not consider your presentation of my work as fallacious? Well, I would. 

I think, if you look closely at my piece about Twain, you will see that I am not "pro-dissent," as if I've just snagged dissent out of the warming air. I am actually suggesting that there is considerable evidence that the political opportunists in the global warming camp have leapt right over the conflict phase I believe Kuhn describes, and have seized "consensus" as a means to suppress discussion and to enact reforms that fall, politically, in their favor. Perhaps I do not suggest all of this, but I surely aver that what we are witnessing is what MUST happen: a fight between paradigms, if you will, or between one group who believes a forceful paradigm has emerged and one group that does not. I merely believe that those who tout "consensus" have been wildly premature. They may "have" a consensus, but unlike you, that consensus does not strike me as convincing. At the very least, I have found the doubters quite interesting. 

Lastly, I had in mind just ONE reader of mine who believes that "consensus" ends discussion. And no, that reader is not Al Gore. So my draft was really rather pointed: I was attempting to help a man see that consensus is not always what it appears. 

I pray this explanation goes some way toward clarification and understanding. I feel a bit like this apple has been compared to that orange. But perhaps I've got things wrong.

That's no surprise. 

Peace to you,

Bill Gnade</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Dear Talking Squid,</p>
<p>It is very nice to make your acquaintance.</p>
<p>I feel I should make some sort of defense here regarding my Twain and Kuhn essay. But would it do any good? One wonders.</p>
<p>I read Kuhn, I don&#8217;t know, several times in college, and at least once after my matriculation. I was a philosophy student then; I think I was turned on to Kuhn in 1982, my sophomore year, when I enrolled in the course &#8220;The Philosophy of Natural Science.&#8221; I recall LOVING that fine work; I recognize that it remains a strong force in any discussion of the history of science. </p>
<p>My purpose in my essay was not to flesh out Kuhn in all his provocative glory. I merely wanted to iterate that Twain was clearly Kuhn&#8217;s predecessor; that Twain was not some odd and unconfirmed voice, but that Kuhn validated much of what Twain averred about &#8220;consensus.&#8221; My audience &#8212; clearly &#8212; is not your audience. So I did not think I needed to present Kuhn in any detail (and not that I could after 20 or so years since my last reading of TSOSR).</p>
<p>I find it curious that you should find it necessary to criticize my essay on racist facts. I would love to know where you find it faulty or deficient. Egads! Are you suggesting that I should have mentioned &#8220;semiotics&#8221;? Well, I notice you have not divulged to us all that you are engaged in semiotics in this essay; isn&#8217;t any discussion about the written or spoken word semiotic? But I nit-pick. However, I do not channel Sausarre at all, whoever the hell that is; I MIGHT channel Saussure, but that&#8217;s a stretch. The bone which I picked was with a particular radio talk-show host, who summarily dismissed a man who was straining to make a point. Are you suggesting that my undeniably accurate position on dictionaries somehow discredits me? And are you inferring that because I have attempted to empathize with those who believe in &#8220;racist facts&#8221; (I note you steer clear of my actual argument), I am somehow intellectually stunted, ill-equipped to apprehend the rarified air of global warming science? Would you not consider your presentation of my work as fallacious? Well, I would. </p>
<p>I think, if you look closely at my piece about Twain, you will see that I am not &#8220;pro-dissent,&#8221; as if I&#8217;ve just snagged dissent out of the warming air. I am actually suggesting that there is considerable evidence that the political opportunists in the global warming camp have leapt right over the conflict phase I believe Kuhn describes, and have seized &#8220;consensus&#8221; as a means to suppress discussion and to enact reforms that fall, politically, in their favor. Perhaps I do not suggest all of this, but I surely aver that what we are witnessing is what MUST happen: a fight between paradigms, if you will, or between one group who believes a forceful paradigm has emerged and one group that does not. I merely believe that those who tout &#8220;consensus&#8221; have been wildly premature. They may &#8220;have&#8221; a consensus, but unlike you, that consensus does not strike me as convincing. At the very least, I have found the doubters quite interesting. </p>
<p>Lastly, I had in mind just ONE reader of mine who believes that &#8220;consensus&#8221; ends discussion. And no, that reader is not Al Gore. So my draft was really rather pointed: I was attempting to help a man see that consensus is not always what it appears. </p>
<p>I pray this explanation goes some way toward clarification and understanding. I feel a bit like this apple has been compared to that orange. But perhaps I&#8217;ve got things wrong.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s no surprise. </p>
<p>Peace to you,</p>
<p>Bill Gnade</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2008 Hugo Awards by Chris Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack. I knew I shouldn't have made such a sweeping comment. Yes, the LOCUS Awards are also very good at identifying high quality without as much cultural bias as the Hugos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack. I knew I shouldn&#8217;t have made such a sweeping comment. Yes, the LOCUS Awards are also very good at identifying high quality without as much cultural bias as the Hugos.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2008 Hugo Awards by Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re "consistently recognises quality in its field with much greater reliability than any other literary award I know"

Notwithstanding that the Hugo is an anglophone SF award with a US bias,  the Locus Award arguably does a far better job.  Check it out year by year.

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;consistently recognises quality in its field with much greater reliability than any other literary award I know&#8221;</p>
<p>Notwithstanding that the Hugo is an anglophone SF award with a US bias,  the Locus Award arguably does a far better job.  Check it out year by year.</p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postmodernism versus global warming by Stephen Dedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Dedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I hear or read a creationist or climate change skeptic touting the idea of "teaching the controversy", I suggest it would be at least as important to have students discuss whether George W. Bush or Al Gore actually won the 2000 election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I hear or read a creationist or climate change skeptic touting the idea of &#8220;teaching the controversy&#8221;, I suggest it would be at least as important to have students discuss whether George W. Bush or Al Gore actually won the 2000 election.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postmodernism versus global warming by Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.talkingsquid.net/archives/429#comment-46297</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if Maxwell was silenced as well? 

Imagine the Intergovernmental Panel on Physical Sciences (IPPS) decided in 1820 that the Consensus was Newtonian physics and that the physical properties of our world were settled once and for all.

Then not only Einstein, but all the scientists who preceeded him would have been silenced.

You ever wonder why it took so ffing long for the Ptolomaic system to be overthrown?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if Maxwell was silenced as well? </p>
<p>Imagine the Intergovernmental Panel on Physical Sciences (IPPS) decided in 1820 that the Consensus was Newtonian physics and that the physical properties of our world were settled once and for all.</p>
<p>Then not only Einstein, but all the scientists who preceeded him would have been silenced.</p>
<p>You ever wonder why it took so ffing long for the Ptolomaic system to be overthrown?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postmodernism versus global warming by David Cake</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Cake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought special relativity was so called because it applied only to inertial frames (ie the later general theory of relativity extended the theory to cover accelerating frames and gravity)?

Anyway, I applaud your discussion of the misapplication of Thomas Kuhn, it is a private bugbear of mine, too. Besides the misapplication in ways that Kuhn wouldn't have approved of, there is also the issue that Kuhn just isn't particularly current philosophy of science, for precisely the reason that it poorly explains what most scientists do all day, and how a reasonably well established science generally advances. I prefer Imre Lakatos' ideas, though my philosophy of science is over a decade out of date, perhaps there are more current accepted theories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought special relativity was so called because it applied only to inertial frames (ie the later general theory of relativity extended the theory to cover accelerating frames and gravity)?</p>
<p>Anyway, I applaud your discussion of the misapplication of Thomas Kuhn, it is a private bugbear of mine, too. Besides the misapplication in ways that Kuhn wouldn&#8217;t have approved of, there is also the issue that Kuhn just isn&#8217;t particularly current philosophy of science, for precisely the reason that it poorly explains what most scientists do all day, and how a reasonably well established science generally advances. I prefer Imre Lakatos&#8217; ideas, though my philosophy of science is over a decade out of date, perhaps there are more current accepted theories.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The problem with &#8220;French theory&#8221; by Talking Squid &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Postmodernism versus global warming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talking Squid &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Postmodernism versus global warming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in June I wrote about the way French Theory could be used to undermine evidence. I received a challenge among the comments to provide some evidence for this. Well, at the time, I [...]</description>
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